tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post114455294119433744..comments2024-01-25T00:38:08.564-05:00Comments on The Zenformation Professional: COLLEGE TOWNS OF THE LIVING DEAD:Who's Supposed to Fix This Shit, Anyway?The ZenFo Prohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1145326619845464392006-04-17T22:16:00.000-04:002006-04-17T22:16:00.000-04:00Who said I'm faculty? I think that's a bit of a re...Who said I'm faculty? I think that's a bit of a reach to make that assumption based on a blog, dude (ette).<BR/><BR/>In regards to my life, I do, however, make a distinction between work (as a bonafide librarian) and play (this blog). I don't blog, for instance, while I'm working or mention who I work for; I've also started deleting comments that may or may not case grief for some of my The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1145326202671729382006-04-17T22:10:00.000-04:002006-04-17T22:10:00.000-04:00You seem to maintain a rather unhealthy relationsh...You seem to maintain a rather unhealthy relationship with your students, Jason. Doesn't this sort of intervention make it difficult to have students take you serious as member of the faculty?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144909458151930362006-04-13T02:24:00.000-04:002006-04-13T02:24:00.000-04:00I think to truly relate you would have to think ba...I think to truly relate you would have to think back to your addiction... the underlying emotions are very similar...<BR/><BR/>As for your relationships with women with such problems I can say that the only reason Loverboy and I made it through this was that he never, ever, tried to save me. He was just there for me, loving me and I think to a certain extent accepted the fact that I might not Miz BoheMiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684634451330079565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144898394745290792006-04-12T23:19:00.000-04:002006-04-12T23:19:00.000-04:00You know... I do think that a lot of time eating d...You know... I do think that a lot of time eating disorders are more about just not being happy with yourself. I had problems losing my "baby" weight... took me a long time... about a year to get back down to my pre-pregnancy weight. There were times I had thought about sticking my finger down my throat... not eating at all... but I never did. I exercised and started eating better...<BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144894278048673102006-04-12T22:11:00.000-04:002006-04-12T22:11:00.000-04:00MizB:I think I get what you're getting at, and I t...MizB:<BR/>I think I get what you're getting at, and I tend to agree that it does come down to the need to regain one's sense of self - a healthy sense. And nobody can do it but the individual. <BR/><BR/>I've been waiting for you to chime in on this, mainly because you've been on the other side of the coin in terms of dealing with a serious disorder, and you're trying to kick its ass back to The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144892992407060022006-04-12T21:49:00.000-04:002006-04-12T21:49:00.000-04:00Smurf:There has to definitely be some sort of cult...Smurf:<BR/>There has to definitely be some sort of cultural influence, because, well, eating disorders are mostly limited to highly developed, mostly white nations. <BR/><BR/>And I think there has to be some communicable element that's conveyed through things like media - why else would eating disorders be limited to a group of people with access and influence over the largest percentage of The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144875154555640212006-04-12T16:52:00.000-04:002006-04-12T16:52:00.000-04:00Smurf and Miz B.:I wanted to respond jointly to bo...Smurf and Miz B.:<BR/><BR/>I wanted to respond jointly to both of you because I noticed something in both of your comments...<BR/><BR/>Both of you have different experiences with laxative abuse, but both have taken, from the sounds of it, completely different routes in recovery and healing. I think there's probably a bigger issue here than just this post. There's probably an infinite number of The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144871871572729212006-04-12T15:57:00.000-04:002006-04-12T15:57:00.000-04:00Whoa...this is gonna be a long one...will break it...<B>Whoa...this is gonna be a long one...will break it up in two parts...not in chronological order...<BR/>- Jason </B><BR/><BR/><BR/>Cat:<BR/>That's a good point...for my substance abuse, I know I had to hit rock bottom and then pick the pieces back up (Wow, I'll be 9 years in Aug.) One has to hit rock bottom before realizing the real issues behind the problems. I went cold turkey on everything, The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144867326015783352006-04-12T14:42:00.000-04:002006-04-12T14:42:00.000-04:00I had anorexia and wrote about it back in January....I had anorexia and wrote about it <A HREF="http://mizbohemia.blogspot.com/2006/01/loverboy.html#links" REL="nofollow">back in January</A>...<BR/><BR/>It has really nothing to do with fitting in to society's view... the issues at heart run much deeper and a mental imbalance occurs with those who jump over the cliff into the dark side where the negative voices are stronger than the positive and youMiz BoheMiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684634451330079565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144852634544098842006-04-12T10:37:00.000-04:002006-04-12T10:37:00.000-04:00i missed the word control... I have heard that... ...i missed the word control... I have heard that... I think it is a mixture of the two though actually...Smurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14942028355851842749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144851472374867332006-04-12T10:17:00.000-04:002006-04-12T10:17:00.000-04:00Anon:I hope this post wasn't misinterpretted as be...Anon:<BR/>I hope this post wasn't misinterpretted as being a diss on the Greek system; if it came across that way, I apologize. No, not all students here have eating disorders, but that is, sadly, the stereotype around these parts. There are a lot of gifted, wonderful, sweet sorority girls out there who don't have eating disorders. It does exist, however. There's no denying that. <BR/><BR/>The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144850929712973912006-04-12T10:08:00.000-04:002006-04-12T10:08:00.000-04:00I agree Jason. I dont think its cool that our soc...I agree Jason. I dont think its cool that our society makes us feel that is what makes us valuable. I think that if your value comes from what is found on the outside... you are really selling yourself short. I am sorry if I gave the wrong impression, I was trying to help explain why maybe some of them do what they do, that is all. I agree it is sad. EXTREMELY... but I think because of the Smurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14942028355851842749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144847920551810262006-04-12T09:18:00.000-04:002006-04-12T09:18:00.000-04:00Yeah, you know this is really all about control, n...Yeah, you know this is really all about control, not weight. We can control our weight, our drinking, our drug use, our workaholism, our family, our anger...<BR/><BR/>...until suddenly one day you find yourself metaphorically naked at the bottom of a deep hole, alone. Where you've always been. Only now your company is a bottle of laxatives, or a needle, or <I>whatever</I> and seething pile of Cat.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596358921357615801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144842962367161622006-04-12T07:56:00.000-04:002006-04-12T07:56:00.000-04:00I agree with you about enabling 100%, but I guess ...I agree with you about enabling 100%, but I guess I see a difference between sitting down with someone and having a discussion about destructive behaviours and calling them out about it in public. <BR/><BR/>It's very easy for people who have never had the disorder to lack sympathy, and I realize the impact that these diseases can have on family members and friends, but it really isn't a surprisereneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13074212943754644155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144842042193414402006-04-12T07:40:00.000-04:002006-04-12T07:40:00.000-04:00This is way too harsh and it makes every miami wom...This is way too harsh and it makes every miami woman look bad. We don't all have eating disorders. I'm in a sorority btw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144834964126470282006-04-12T05:42:00.000-04:002006-04-12T05:42:00.000-04:00Renee:It's not about blaming a "victim" for me. Th...Renee:<BR/>It's not about blaming a "victim" for me. There are too many victims - families, friends, etc. - just as there are too many culprits. Having lived with, been in relationships with, and almost married people with severe eating disorders, I can empathize with sufferers, but I have no sympathy whatsoever. Feeling sorry for someone who, in the end, is simply committing suicide solves The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144819023879443852006-04-12T01:17:00.000-04:002006-04-12T01:17:00.000-04:00Get over it. That is what I have to say to all th...Get over it. That is what I have to say to all these 115 lb women who have self esteem issues. Stop blaming it on society, or your friends, or the pressure, or any other bullshit that comes along. Truth is you are insecure and you want people to like you so you find other insecure people to spend time with. Take a good long look in the mirror and realize that the only person you have to makeKFigmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09481992815190325715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144817900820379372006-04-12T00:58:00.000-04:002006-04-12T00:58:00.000-04:00The drive to be what SOCIETY poisons our mind that...The drive to be what SOCIETY poisons our mind that makes us valuable. Skinny, perfect and beautiful. Outward appearance is everything according to all the superfiscial bullcrap our media and SOCIETY on the whole is programing our minds from the time we can start seeing any type of tv or listen to the radio or see any media or books. Who is glorified and worthwhile?<BR/><BR/>I was reading aboutSmurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14942028355851842749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144811946818093232006-04-11T23:19:00.000-04:002006-04-11T23:19:00.000-04:00I agree that nothing good can come from silence. ...I agree that nothing good can come from silence. However, I'm not sure shaming someone suffing from this disease is the answer either. With these diseases we tend to blame the victim, but I'm not sure that that's productive, effective, or ethical. I'm not sure if that what you were getting at, though.<BR/><BR/>Interesting postreneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13074212943754644155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144809234297311142006-04-11T22:33:00.000-04:002006-04-11T22:33:00.000-04:00Anon/Coop:Lol...you must be posting comments via l...Anon/Coop:<BR/>Lol...you must be posting comments via laptop...<BR/><BR/>I've been so frusterated lately with the institutionalized acceptance of certain things in higher ed. lately. I actually started writing this after reading your last post on Duke. It's gotten to the point where people simply say "there's no problem here." That's just pathetic as a culture. <BR/><BR/>I know quite a few good The ZenFo Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05132805758799453850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144803541759727882006-04-11T20:59:00.000-04:002006-04-11T20:59:00.000-04:00Hi!Just wanted to say I totally love your blog! I ...Hi!<BR/><BR/>Just wanted to say I totally love your blog! I wish we had peple at miami that had the balls to talk about the problems on campus. i lived in mcbride when i was a student and i Knew too many girls who had eating disroders. miami's the capital of binge and purge and it embarrasses me as an alumni that nothing is done about it. <BR/><BR/>Sorry for the typos. My mobile sucks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144803136630917982006-04-11T20:52:00.000-04:002006-04-11T20:52:00.000-04:00Mmm, I hate to sound jaded, but I'm in my 40s and ...Mmm, I hate to sound jaded, but I'm in my 40s and this was old news when I was in high school. When I was in college--a small, private <I>Christian</I> college in the midwest--a newborn baby was found in the trash can in one of the girls' dorms. No one even noticed the mother was pregnant. In a college with less than 1500 students.<BR/><BR/>All you can do is do what you can. You at least had Cat.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596358921357615801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144798882060582392006-04-11T19:41:00.000-04:002006-04-11T19:41:00.000-04:00me- pfftme- pfftAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12678903.post-1144798838830992312006-04-11T19:40:00.000-04:002006-04-11T19:40:00.000-04:00Yea, coming from a very large school I would never...Yea, coming from a very large school I would never expect administration or professor to notice anything about theire students for the m ost part except their work .<BR/>It is rampant I knew so many anorexics in high school I have friends who are members of vrious frats in colleges all over the country- these friends ar goo dpeople and the frats in many cases do good work but the reasons they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com